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and the nra president david keen blasted mr. biden and the administration when he appeared on the "today" show this morning. >> we have a profound disagreement with this administration, first of all, on what would make that difference. i don't think there's a welcome of concern about dealing with the problem. i think there's a very different view as to what the problem is and how to solve it. >> keene's comments follow the statement of the nra immediately after the meeting yesterday. quote, we were disapointed how much the meeting had to do with keeping the children safe but an agenda to attack the second amendment. >> i think we can do a great deal without in any way imposing on or impinging on the rights of the second amendment. >> that was the vice president before the meeting started. joining me now, nia-malaki h henderson and keith boynekin. are you surprise fwid reaction post meeting and even going in to the meeting from the nra at this point? >> no. the reaction seems to be typical. they don't want to address any sort of
and the nra president david keen blasted mr. biden and the administration when he appeared on the "today" show this morning. >> we have a profound disagreement with this administration, first of all, on what would make that difference. i don't think there's a welcome of concern about dealing with the problem. i think there's a very different view as to what the problem is and how to solve it. >> keene's comments follow the statement of the nra immediately after the meeting...
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does the nra have disproportionate power? you argued a moment ago that they didn't have the power they once had in a presidential election. >> look, i'll give you a good example. one of the things they decided to do in this last election was to support some candidates that were running against those that had great records with the nra, where the nra was putting their money into one side. i decided to put my money into the other side. >> joe baca in california one of those democrats that you -- >> we won four out of seven. four out of seven where the nra supported every one of those four and we won with a small amount of money. there is this myth that the nra is so powerful -- >> mr. bloomberg's experimental anti-nra pac spending, it did focus on seven races in 2012. he didn't win all of them. but he did win four of those races. and it didn't take him a ton of money to do it. and as we reported last night, the nra's own spending was profoundly impotent in the last election. less than 1% of their multimillion-dollar expenditure
does the nra have disproportionate power? you argued a moment ago that they didn't have the power they once had in a presidential election. >> look, i'll give you a good example. one of the things they decided to do in this last election was to support some candidates that were running against those that had great records with the nra, where the nra was putting their money into one side. i decided to put my money into the other side. >> joe baca in california one of those democrats...
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the nra is the extremist in the room. when you start doing hitler and stalin, i think responsible common sense americans turn off. this is too extreme. this will appeal to the extremists in this country, but we want to speak to those who understand the need for common-sense legislation. the president and vice president biden are trying to put together a common sense package that police chiefs in this country, that mayors, that others who have to deal day to day with these illegal guns want to see. if the president and vice president have a congress that will not move on this, and it may well not, executive action is not out of order. it is not out of order. >> i really praise the vice president for saying that today, because that tells the anti-s over there, look, we're serious about this. we're going to do something about it. what kind of executive action could he take? how far could the president go on this? and of course he's got the mayor's organization behind him. he would get a lot of support around the country. >>
the nra is the extremist in the room. when you start doing hitler and stalin, i think responsible common sense americans turn off. this is too extreme. this will appeal to the extremists in this country, but we want to speak to those who understand the need for common-sense legislation. the president and vice president biden are trying to put together a common sense package that police chiefs in this country, that mayors, that others who have to deal day to day with these illegal guns want to...
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it's half right there that the nra is crazy. of course, nothing has ever been absolute about the second amendment. we can't fire shoulder-held missile launchers in airports. >> or even have access to an automatic weapon. >> it's absurd. >> of course it's absurd. he's not talking to america. he's talking to a fairly slim slice of the electorate that controls the house republicans and also has a lot of influence over democratic senators from rural states. >> i know that, the nra's wayne lapierre says gun owners would stand their ground. let's listen. >> we are not people to be tr l trivializ trivialized, marginized or demonized as unreasonable. we're not children who need to be parented, misguided, bitter clingers to guns and religion. we believe in our right to defend ourselves and our families with semi-automatic firearms technology. we believe that if neither the criminal nor the political class and their bodyguards and security people are limited by magazine capacity, we shouldn't be limited in our capacity, either. >> you kno
it's half right there that the nra is crazy. of course, nothing has ever been absolute about the second amendment. we can't fire shoulder-held missile launchers in airports. >> or even have access to an automatic weapon. >> it's absurd. >> of course it's absurd. he's not talking to america. he's talking to a fairly slim slice of the electorate that controls the house republicans and also has a lot of influence over democratic senators from rural states. >> i know that,...
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but to nra's wayne lapierre, that's what they are. at an awards ceremony last night, he the leader of the nra explained why. >> obama wants to turn the idea of absolutism into a dirty word. just another word for extremism. he wants you, all of you, and americans throughout all of this country to accept the idea of principles as he sees fit. there's only two reasons for a federal list on gun owners. to either tax them or take them. it's the only reason. and anyone who says that's excessive, president obama says you're an absolutist. >> well, the nra has been unapologetic in its defense of gun rights, of course, fighting even nationally popular controls like background checks and ammunition limits. in fact, the nation's gun extremists out there have hit the panic button in their delusional belief that president obama sits atop a tyrannical government in their delusion to take away guns. joining me dana will bank and former san francisco mayor willie brown. i want to go to mayor brown on this. it just seems to me there are other reasons
but to nra's wayne lapierre, that's what they are. at an awards ceremony last night, he the leader of the nra explained why. >> obama wants to turn the idea of absolutism into a dirty word. just another word for extremism. he wants you, all of you, and americans throughout all of this country to accept the idea of principles as he sees fit. there's only two reasons for a federal list on gun owners. to either tax them or take them. it's the only reason. and anyone who says that's...
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how badly did the nra hurt you in pennsylvania where the nra is king? >> well, we've always had healthy respect for nra and the second amendment, but it's pretty clear to me that after that vote they were able to harness some considerable opposition to my candidacy, which, obviously, as organized as it was, i managed to prevail, and one of the challenges i think the nra needs to confront -- and i'm -- i want to protect the second amendment rights as well, but you take a look at every constitutional amendment, and there are legitimate restrictions and modifications. the best example i can give everybody is freedom of speech. absolutely, but it's not universal. you cannot yell fire in a crowded theater. the right to bare arms under the second amendment allows us to -- is a constitutionally protected right, but, i mean, how far do you go? i think as a veteran and i dare say if you ask any veteran who has used an assault weapon in combat or trained with it, whether or not they think their next door neighbor as well-intentioned as they are needs to be able t
how badly did the nra hurt you in pennsylvania where the nra is king? >> well, we've always had healthy respect for nra and the second amendment, but it's pretty clear to me that after that vote they were able to harness some considerable opposition to my candidacy, which, obviously, as organized as it was, i managed to prevail, and one of the challenges i think the nra needs to confront -- and i'm -- i want to protect the second amendment rights as well, but you take a look at every...
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maybe not from the nra's leadership, but from congress, from the nra membership. you know, we're not going to agree on everything. you know, gabby and i are both very strong supporters of the second amendment. i don't think you'll find somebody who is a stronger supporter of the second amendment. but in my opinion and in gabby's, some of these things are not really about the second amendment anymore. they're about public safety and protecting your children even in their classrooms. >> captain mark kelly, thank you very much. we wish you the best of luck in your efforts. >> thank you, mika. thank you, joe. >> thanks for being on the show. >> thank you, captain. and please give our best to your wife. what courageous testimony yesterday. >> it was. it was incredible to hear from her. it said it all. it really did, in very few words. this issue, though, we were talking about generals coming forward, colin powell, different people on our show, and politicians who are moving toward trying to get either bans on assault weapons or background checks for stricter regulation
maybe not from the nra's leadership, but from congress, from the nra membership. you know, we're not going to agree on everything. you know, gabby and i are both very strong supporters of the second amendment. i don't think you'll find somebody who is a stronger supporter of the second amendment. but in my opinion and in gabby's, some of these things are not really about the second amendment anymore. they're about public safety and protecting your children even in their classrooms. >>...
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he obviously is, you know, very strong supporter of the nra. and, you know, guns and the role of guns in west virginia is different than, let's say, some other parts of the country but all that being said i think he looks at it in terms of what can we do that is reasonable and can pass. i think from -- you know, his style is to work with republicans and democrats to kind of try to come up with common sense reforms. the difficulty said in terms of doing that is you have kind of three forces. you have one force that doesn't want to do anything. you have i think one force on the other side that wants to do a lot. and then the middle is what is that compromise? what is that reasonable thing that can pass? that's where it gets really difficult. >> absolutely. and we know the emotions involved and we have watched hearings, for example, in connecticut with the family members of children who were killed and spouses who were killed and the newtown massacre. you know, you have the president talking about chicago and today rahm emanuel, the mayor of chica
he obviously is, you know, very strong supporter of the nra. and, you know, guns and the role of guns in west virginia is different than, let's say, some other parts of the country but all that being said i think he looks at it in terms of what can we do that is reasonable and can pass. i think from -- you know, his style is to work with republicans and democrats to kind of try to come up with common sense reforms. the difficulty said in terms of doing that is you have kind of three forces. you...
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denying al gore of this and suggests the nra is strengthened when they are under pressure. you have seen they have apparently expanded their membership. so this is going to be a real fight on this debate around gun control and this idea that somehow obama might be able to make a run around the nra as he pushes for increased gun legislation. this makes it look like it is going to be really hard to do. >> i think, doug, in the category of great minds thinking alike, didn't you pick the same one for the same reasons? anything to add to that? >> a double must read. when i was a kid going to camp the nra gave you your little prize for being a safe shooter. now it is a rich, powerful lobby. it is interesting to look at how the use of extremism or lack of compromise really dialing up controversy as a tactic for creating a really powerful constituency. >> we are going to throw that up there. we had a long chat about powell and his comments today. joe, we always love your input. we are going to wrap it up right now. i want to thank all three of you. i'm alex witt. we'll see you from
denying al gore of this and suggests the nra is strengthened when they are under pressure. you have seen they have apparently expanded their membership. so this is going to be a real fight on this debate around gun control and this idea that somehow obama might be able to make a run around the nra as he pushes for increased gun legislation. this makes it look like it is going to be really hard to do. >> i think, doug, in the category of great minds thinking alike, didn't you pick the same...
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i passed a gun safety ordinance where the room was filled with opponents and nra representatives and we passed it which was to hold people responsible for not storing their guns because we had an epidemic of children shooting themselves and out of that ordinance and ultimately becoming a state law we have seen a decrease in gun shootings amongst children taking their parent's guns. not perfect. so texas is changing. i want really now to focus on those injured but i'm just hoping as we get through this, find out who have been injured and pray for their family that we will be able to have a discussion, not only in texas but in the nation on how we address this question. >> congresswoman, thank you for joining us. >> thank you so very much for having me. >> jennifer summer with houston community newspapers and joins us on the phone from the scene of this shooting. when's the latest? what do you know? >> well, i know that just about ten minutes ago, they had the houston police s.w.a.t. team go on the campus but relatively from -- in the past 30 minutes, the scene calmed down slightly but
i passed a gun safety ordinance where the room was filled with opponents and nra representatives and we passed it which was to hold people responsible for not storing their guns because we had an epidemic of children shooting themselves and out of that ordinance and ultimately becoming a state law we have seen a decrease in gun shootings amongst children taking their parent's guns. not perfect. so texas is changing. i want really now to focus on those injured but i'm just hoping as we get...
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pr wise, the white house has to -- had to invite the nra, and the nra couldn't say so. so this meeting's going to be had, but i have pretty low expectations. when you saw, based on what we saw with wayne lapierre when he came on "meet the press" and his own press conference, i think the two sides are going to be very far apart. there was only one item on what appears to be biden's agenda, when you look at what they think they can get done versus what they are going to push, there was really only one item there that they might have nra support in, and that is forcing states, governments, to participate more in the mental health check, in those mental health -- there's too many states. it's a voluntary thing. they don't always put all of this information into this federal database on mental health. and that was the one surprising thing i took away from lapierre's interview on "meet the press," was that there would be nra support for that which, of course, is not exactly the most states-rights-oriented position to take when you're forcing states, this mandate on mental hea
pr wise, the white house has to -- had to invite the nra, and the nra couldn't say so. so this meeting's going to be had, but i have pretty low expectations. when you saw, based on what we saw with wayne lapierre when he came on "meet the press" and his own press conference, i think the two sides are going to be very far apart. there was only one item on what appears to be biden's agenda, when you look at what they think they can get done versus what they are going to push, there was...
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to give a sense of how it matched up, mark kelly and wayne la pierre, the ceo of the nra outlined the essence of the hearing. >> gabby and i are pro gun ownership. we are also anti-gun violence. rights demand responsibility. this right does not extend to terrorists. it does not extend to criminals and it does not extend to the mentally ill. when dangerous people get guns, we are all vulnerable. >> a third of our schools right now have armed security already because it works. more gun laws while failing to enforce the thousands we already have is not a serious solution for reducing crime. proposals that only serve to burden the law-abiding will fail again in the future. >> only a couple of times did wane la pierre get into it with a member of the committee. over the hours, it was a reasonable back and forth. it was not the fireworks that some people might have expected. while he opposes the universal background checks, he came with an argument to make saying over and over again, there not prosecutions of laws that are on the books, trying to put the pressure back on the justice departm
to give a sense of how it matched up, mark kelly and wayne la pierre, the ceo of the nra outlined the essence of the hearing. >> gabby and i are pro gun ownership. we are also anti-gun violence. rights demand responsibility. this right does not extend to terrorists. it does not extend to criminals and it does not extend to the mentally ill. when dangerous people get guns, we are all vulnerable. >> a third of our schools right now have armed security already because it works. more...
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telling you between this battle between now and when we get this passed you are going to hear from the nra, and there are an awful lot of them saying that's not going to do anything. i'm saying to you at the we can save lives. >> will it be hard? for sure. we owe it to our constituents and our country to try. new york city senator, you have a bill on an anti-gun trafficking measure. tell me about whether or not you think that you can push ahead with it, where the support is, what can you tell us about it today? >> well, i have been working on this anti-trafficking measure for a while because we have such a challenge in new york. 58% of the weapons used in crimes come from out of state, and 90% are illegal. senator mark kirk and i sat down yesterday talked about our bill, and we decided we're going to introduce this bipartisan bill next week, and i think it's something that can really make a difference because we have to stop the flow of illegal guns going straight to the hands of the criminals. that will be awe great compliment to what senator fine sign and senator schumer and others are w
telling you between this battle between now and when we get this passed you are going to hear from the nra, and there are an awful lot of them saying that's not going to do anything. i'm saying to you at the we can save lives. >> will it be hard? for sure. we owe it to our constituents and our country to try. new york city senator, you have a bill on an anti-gun trafficking measure. tell me about whether or not you think that you can push ahead with it, where the support is, what can you...
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americans for responsible solutions provide a counterweight to the nra. also today, another group, the antiillegal guns group founded by mike bloomberg is going on air with a tv ad that will run on cable in a limited and invoke sandy hook and features the mother of the youngest victim of the tucson shooting. >> my 9-year-old daughter was murdered in the tucson shooting. i have one question for our political leaders. when will you find the courage to stand up to the gun lobby? whose child has to die next? to every mother, we cannot wait. >> bloomberg appeared on "morning joe" a few moments ago to talk more about his effort. >> nobody is trying to take away your gun. no one is trying to take away your right to go hunting or target shooting or have protection in your home. simply, trying to have some reasonable things so people aren't killed. >> how successful will victims' groups be at building political pressure? a different way about going about it. passing gun control legislation will be political. by the way, yesterday gun rights groups announced a "gun
americans for responsible solutions provide a counterweight to the nra. also today, another group, the antiillegal guns group founded by mike bloomberg is going on air with a tv ad that will run on cable in a limited and invoke sandy hook and features the mother of the youngest victim of the tucson shooting. >> my 9-year-old daughter was murdered in the tucson shooting. i have one question for our political leaders. when will you find the courage to stand up to the gun lobby? whose child...
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now you have an a rating from the nra. in fact you put that in your official bio. do you agree with the nra's leadership stance that no gun laws would have an impact on mass shootings? >> well, i agree we need to have greater security. i'm willing to listen to anybody as we talk about what we need to do to solve these mass gun violent incidents across the country. i'm skeptical though of any answers that start with gun bans. we need a broad conversation about the way we approach mental health as a nation. i think we need to look at ancillary things, even violent video games and those type of efforts. but i'm willing like the congressman that you just cited to listen to any answer. i just think we shouldn't be starting with conversations about gun bans. >> why can't gun laws be part of the solution? i mean, you're saying you don't want to start with that. but can't they be part of the solution? i mean because they play a pretty crucial role in mass shootings. so they're not at all the problem? >> well, what i would tell you is i'm again glad to listen. but history s
now you have an a rating from the nra. in fact you put that in your official bio. do you agree with the nra's leadership stance that no gun laws would have an impact on mass shootings? >> well, i agree we need to have greater security. i'm willing to listen to anybody as we talk about what we need to do to solve these mass gun violent incidents across the country. i'm skeptical though of any answers that start with gun bans. we need a broad conversation about the way we approach mental...